During my usual “Facebooking” nights, I got an invitation from a fan profile page from Go Negosyo. Since I was an avid supporter of the program, I decided to be fan. However, it looks like some group is using other intellectual properties without their permission so that they can spam users into going to their website. I find this in bad taste and I couldn’t resist writing about it. The person spamming is Martin De Leon and the group he belongs to is called the “Create Abundance Business Community”. I’d like to take this opportunity to voice out my concern with their social media marketing strategy.
Basically their business is selling slots to board game sessions of Robert Kiyosaki’s Cash Flow. To play you have to pay P400. There’s nothing wrong with the board game. In fact, I learned a lot from it when one of my friends had me play it for free. What’s pissing me off is that the Facebook campaign that they’re using to promote it is nothing but a sham. They come up with fan profiles that use the IP of popular groups like Go Negosyo and even Ako Mismo. They use official images from these groups and promote it as if it were really a fan club for the said initiatives. Why is it a scam?
Because after you join all they do is spam your inbox with invitations to the Cash Flow game.
One of the most important things you have to keep in mind when you do social media marketing is that you should always be transparent, sincere, and REAL. You are asking permission from users to be able to communicate with them and by violating that trust, you are ruining your personal and business brands.
I’ve already removed myself from the fan list of their groups. Suggest you do the same.
To Martin De Leon and the Create Abundance Business Community, please stop masquerading and using someone else’s IP. Eventually you can probably get sued.
wow this is the most number of comment i ever saw in a blog.
I promise to protect this person: so I’ll just call this person (chris) which is not the real name. Chris signed a contract with CA2020 that disclose Chris from telling the truth.
Chris is one of the coaches and core team member of CA2020 before. Chris is the one who invited me to CA2020 wealth course, Chris is no longer active with CA2020. But need to protect himself from Rovel’s group. Chris did invest the P100k with CA2020 and was promise to make P1M per month after 2 years, if Chris follows the CA2020 system of creating wealth. Chris did what he was told, in fact in the beginning Chris like what the group is doing and there mission. That’s why I was invited by Chris. But as Chris goes deeper, began to see the truth on what’s going on. Rovel is not really the person who you guys from CA2020 think he is.
Recently we bump into each other and have a very interesting chat. Chris said that more than half of the coaches there are no longer active or quit. Almost all of them end up with debt, because most of the P100k they pay to CA2020 are “inutang” from other people. To enter the core team you have to invest P100k. And they will ask you to call people “on the spot” to make that “utang” to invest with them. without any money back guarantee. “Money Back guarantee are for losers lang daw”.
All of the members including the core team are not even making any passive income. Some of them has been there for more than 3 years. And yet can’t even buy a second hand car.
My Take on this: If you are teaching people to follow your system that will earn you P1 million per month passive income in 2 years or less. Shouldn’t you CA2020 core team people making that amount by now in order to teach others. You’re blaming Chris for not following the system, but common sense lang CA2020 coaches. You yourself are not even making that amount by following the CA2020 system. Trust me you’ll never make that money, before you know it Rovel will make a run for your money, like what he did with other people.
Chris told me why…. quit CA2020 because
First: Chris cannot take the dishonesty, all the lying, using other people’s or organization’s intellectual property rights without permission just to recruit people for the Wealth Course. In order to make it look like other organization is supporting them. The hype of fooling people with CA2020′s promise which non of them ever fulfill themselves. That’s why a lot of coaches (the honest ones)quit CA2020, it’s just obvious people who feel comfortable with CA2020 are comfortable with dishonesty, lying, can take advantage of people.
Second: The P100K is the real motivator for CA2020 people to make bawi their investment. Helping people and the country is just the front obviously. Common sense lang, who do you think gets the huge portion of the P100k?
Chris’ uncle was in the real estate business, and knew Rovel’s whereabouts the scams and the stafa. The uncle said that businessman and investors doesn’t even want to do business or partner with Rovel. This guy is a real life criminal who scam people for money. That’s why he started targeting young people who has no experience, no knowledge and are desperate to be in business. Those people are the easy target for him. Chris said that Rovel claims to be a multi-millionaire in CA2020. That’s why people blindly follow him, without even knowing the truth.
Chris also mention that in CA2020 they were introduce to this millionaire guy who help Rovel established CA2020. They call him “Kuya Pax” or Pax Paculaba. Better check on this guy too…big time daw ito.
- CA2020, you call yourself Business School when I attended your courses. First your not a school. Unless you have approval of DepED.
- I also notice that you put a TradeMark (TM) logo on some of your create abundance invitation on the net. Well you need to register yourself with IPO office before you can even use that TM logo.
- For CA2020 to collect investment of P100K from people to be part of your core team. You guys need to register with BIR. If not CA2020 is just like Bernie Madoff scam.
This are just simple tips that CA2020 Business Coaches don’t know…which a majority of the people and non-business coaches know…Huh?
- The person who’s facilitating the cashflow table i’m in, mention that CA2020 is the Robert Kiyosaki representative here in the Philippines. Chris told me CA2020 is not a representative of Robert Kiyosaki not even close, but CA2020 have to make it look like they are to attract people.
and by the way CA2020 is not the first one to affiliate themselves with Robert Kiyosaki to scam people, First Quadrant company was the first one to do it. At least FQ registered and when you pay, you get receipts.
- Even your wealth course module is a copy from T Harv Eker Seminar mentioned by Chris, which CA2020 makes it look like they are the representative of Harv Eker here in the Philippines. But you guys are not…again just to attract people… Please respect people’s intellectual property rights.
- CA2020 and Nuskin: you’re both the same…. like to take advantage of people. Perfect combination CA2020 and Nuskin the biggest business associates has a pending criminal case name Rovel Tumambo. And Nuskin wants him to be there leader.
CA2020 teaches people financial literacy, building passive, building business. They also teach members to be careful of scammers like the financial planners and insurance people, people who sell mutual funds or other investment product, other MLM companies, other group of people who teaches Rich Dad stuff, other groups who do Cashflow 101 are scammers… What a twist! Parang Culto na to ah
The truth is CA2020 teaches people to do business… but they themselves don’t, They’re MLM recruiters… using famous authors and books concept to attract people….What you do, after what you teach is totally different.
Instead of building business. CA2020 recruit new members as their business. You guys are in the recruiting to earn business. Your using Rich Dad and Harv Eker as the front act which I personally don’t think you have the permission to do so, but doing it illegally. You can just see it in plain daylight.
Base on the real world, your not a business school. It’s more of a school for criminals. Slowly Rovel is teaching you young people his method of making money. Obviously it’s very illegal…exactly what Bernie Madoff style called private investment. CA2020 is even worst, No Receipts or contract. No Guarantee… you give the money to CA2020 and you yourself has to work hard to earn it back… to pay back the money you loan from other people….how stupid!
this listing includes people who are top earners from different companies worldwide.
(and this listing is not even from Nu Skin. This is from Monavie!)
please search for # 315
http://www.whyjoinus.com/top_400_earners.pdf
Well unless your income claims are certified by qualified 3rd party (like one of the Big Four Accounting Firms) then all those in the pdf are plain trash.
Ike: Is PryceWaterhouseCoopers big enough? you can go to their office.
This kind of information is a big help for those who are willing to put their life in misery.
your life is really in misery if you just listen to your broke friends!
All CA2020 members including scam master estafa king rovel is also broke. If not for the people who they fooled in giving them P100K. They won’t have any income.
Most CA2020 coaches are not just broke but have debt, but they’ll tell you that debt is good said Robert Kiyosaki.That’s the secret of the rich people daw.
joebel are you rich? or pretending to be one.
Salamat Bong sa impormasyon
ako po ay isang concern citizen na naging biktima ng CA2020
Do you know kung saan ngayon limipat mga taga CA2020 members?
check this out http://www.lgnprosperity.com/
last week palang mahigit lapas isang daan na former member ng CA2020 nuskin lumipat na dito. at marami pang parating. Dahil wala talagang kumikita sa kanila sa CA2020 puro pambobola lang lahat, nag attend din ako dyan dati, mga naka coat and tie at gown pa sa cashflow million seminar nila, tuloy akala ko kung sinong may debut o kasal pero naka FX lang pauwi. Puro labas lang ng pera at bayad, kaya maraming mga CA2020 member panay utang at problema sa pera.
dito sa programa namin, sila naka pag bayad ng utang nila at kumita. kung talagang world class ang training niyo CA2020 dapat hindi kayo nangloloko ng mga tao tukol sa kinikita niyo. dahil alam namin ang totoo. kaya kami lumipat.
dito sa amin hindi kami kagaya ng mga taga CA2020 nuskin na sinungling ,mahilig gumawa ng mga labag sa batas, at batos sa mga tao. sympre kung pipili lang kayo ng leader piliin nyo yung mga leader na tapat sa kapwa at sa diyos.
if you want to know more horror stories about CA2020 nuskin. check us out. Hindi po ako nagpropromot dito. nag sasalay lang po akong kung anong totoong nangyayari ngayon. pabawas na nang pabawas mga tao dyan sa CA2020 nuskin dahil maingat na mga tao ngayon sa scam.
maraming salamat po sayo, ginoong Carlo Ople, dahil dito sa blog site nyo maraming tao nalinawan at nakita yung totoo. Salamat din sa mga nag halindulat ng mga mensahe dito…. may you continue to prosper in your life.
dahil after create abundance is to create prosperity….
peace and prosperity to all
If you want to know where CA2020 holds its gatherings try going to Ascott Hotel buddy.
And please stop posting your ugly MLM company trying hard to be like NuSkin
go to http://www.nsoverview.com instead
ca2020 is nuskin! that’s it!!!
kumbaga naka front lang kuno ang wealth seminar pero in the end, sa nuskin ka papadala! grabe!!! mga gago!!
Yes it is MLM. I hope Prosperity was not offended because he is into MLM too. http://www.lgnprosperity.com/
at least they’re not liars…
Recently MLM recruiters have been spamming email list such as Yahoogroups. Spam is, of course, annoying. But in this case, it can also be dangerous.
Thanks to Carlo Ople and many of those who commented on this blog/article, all of you have been helpful and informative. I’ve created a shortened link to this article — I’ve posted a link to this page on my Facebook wall, as well as a comment of my own on one of my Ygroups … open message archives at —
Am now drafting a column which should appear *in print* sometime in early September.
All the Best,
WYn
I am receiving spams from time to time. that should be easy. It should not be a danger.
I block them.
I dont see your article Winthrop Yu.Maybe the papers didnt like it.You should go back to English class and just prepare some student diary entries
I found out about ca2020 from an online acquaintance in another social network. The Marketing ploy is “get rich in 5 years,” and “have financial security,” at least that’s what she told me. We chatted for a while, and we got to a point where it looked as if I have an aversion to getting rich because I said I am quite content with what I have and have no need to get “rich.” The seminars are “free,” some of which are based on Kiyosaki’s “Rich Dad, Poor Dad.”
I am very skeptical of “get rich” schemes. The scheme became very doubtful because the seminars are free, and I simply asked “where do you get your revenue stream if your seminars are free?” Once she said I had to be part of the group first, I immediately stopped her and stopped communicating after that.
I am also skeptical about Kiyosaki’s precepts of getting rich. One simple rule I know to get “financially secure or mature” is NOT to spend more than you earn. Another one is weighing wants over needs.
Well that’s why youre poor.
ike taga CA ka diba… why so negative? haven’t got your ROI yet? dapat positive…
I attended the wealth course to module 3 and its good!after all its what people really need to get ahead financially,correct Minset!The group is transparent,I understand they are partnered with NuSKIN,after all Nu Skin is the best Network Marketing company in the world(CHECK 3RD PARTY AGENCY NOT ON YOUR BROKE FRIENDS OR NEIGHTBOORS).I didnt join the group,maybe not now..
I believe people who see network marketing as a scam are idiot people!are you idiot?
Ramil I encourage you to join ASAP. Your not using your money anyway. It’s easy to loan that P100K on the spot. Your coach will teach you some script that works for them on how to lie and get your loan. It took me less than a week to get my P100K.
Then they will teach you how to spam where to spam to get people in so that you can make back your P100k. Invite your parents and friends, they will also loan from other people, so that you can make back your P100K.
Then you have to help them spam get people into the program who will loan the P100K so that your downline can get their investment back. It just go on and on. That’s where the source of their income comes from. From your debt money.
You have to attend their trainings and meetings to continue influence you that you will become millionaire and retire in 3 years. People under have to keep recruiting and using debt money to sustain your millionaire status and retirement.
It’s so easy to loan that P100K some coaches did it in just one sitting calling people. But it will take you a long time to pay it back or never.
Advice lang join kana, you will be making P1M per month after 3 years. You can’t find that opportunity anywhere else except CA2020.
I almost got convinced by them.
But as I was still skeptical, I stumbled upon your site, thanks..
Listen, did anyone notice that when you type in caca20 you’ll arrive to a lot of sites and all of them are inviting you to join them with the constant reminder to indicate who invited you? This is another racket that uses a lot of recruiting . . sort of networking.. And, have you noticed also that one of their principles is OPM or using other’s people’s money? Think, they would use yours…I did not know about the 100K until I read it here..
All the best..
NEST
OPM… that’s what banks are doing. they lend you money for you to use it.
that’s what your parents did when they raised you up.
that’s what every successful billionaire did when they created their business.
I dont know much about CA2020.
But if you dont know the principle behind LEVERAGE (yes using OPM is leveraging), you wont make it in the business.
“The most successful enterprises today are networks …” – What Would Google Do? p.4
Right now, Carlo’s article is leveraging on its NETWORK of followers. and he’s leveraging on our CLEVER minds (i hope) to add contents. and he’s leveraging on CA2020′s keywords. And he’s leveraging on Google spider. He is leveraging on my time replying to this article.
Let me give you guys an example of filthy liars from nuskin.
This guy’s name is paul dumanig a frustrated rock star wanna be
a nuskin gay..i mean guy. He said “he don’t know much about CA2020.” I meet him in a CA2020 event in pearl drive starbucks. Have his prospect attend the CA2020 “life entreprenurial course”. duh!
You bring people to our event. I thought we are friends? How could you betray us? you don’t know us anymore? huhuhuh
LIAR@@@%$
It’s so funny because most of you here rely your statements on what you read on the net without even personally seeing CA.
As for CS if you’re truly an Ex-Coach as you say you are then why are your facts twisted?
Well well you’ll say you have facts but if they were facts can you prove them in court? If you can’t then I guess you’re just a part of them Demolition Squads formed by envious people to haul accusations against CA.
If you say you can prove them in court then by all means we’re waiting for you to sue CA.
The question is – got balls to do it?
And by the way, there isn’t a CA2020 member named Paul Dumanig.
My goodness, hahaha, desperate attempts to taint CA2020′s image? Doesnt matter. One thing I keep saying is – if you so believe ca2020 is a scam then file charges. If you can’t then you’re the scammer since you lead the public to believe a mischievous accusation based on hoaxes and speculations and not on evidence
julius obviously you’re a newbie. Looks like you’re less than 6 months with CA2020. You don’t know anything what happened before. You’re also very very very stupid. Your reading skill is really bad. You don’t understand what you’re reading.
ask your squatter neighbor to translate what I have written. So that you don’t embarrass yourself again.
I never said that paul dumanig is a member of CA2020, he brings his prospect to some courses in CA2020 (newbie ka nga, I’ll forgive for that). He’s with nuscam… I mean nuskin. You have the same upline kuya pax. Ask stupid coach ryan, stupid coach ralph or any one who’s been there for years. It’s a long story bakit natigil… ask them nalang.
Advice lang be nice to paul… he’s a nice guy. if you’re nice to him pwede mo siya ma recruit under you. Since he’s not with CA2020. you can ask him to transfer his nuskin account under you, using his brother or any family member muna or they will look at the situation and give you advice on how to do that. That’s a great tip I’ve learned from some coaches. It’s easier kasi to transfer other nuskin member to CA2020. Because they are not allowed to copy CA2020 system and method. nuskin only allow CA2020 for that, because CA2020 brings the highest revenue for nuscam… I mean nuskin. That’s why other groups in nuskin envy scam master rovel DAW. But they have to go with the CA2020 system investing P100k para fair.
Another thing, you’re asking me to get my facts straight.
FACTs: 75% to 80% quit and loss their money in the core team. (correct me please is it 90% or 95% na, sorry, I’m not updated)which one stupid.
Please be specific on which fact, i’ll be glad to elaborate and share the truth, nothing but the truth.
Just an advice lang julius, dapat tinapos mo yung schooling mo, gusto mo na kasi yumaman kagad. Di mo tuloy tinapos yung grade 1. Tamo nahahalata tuloy na illiterate ka. Loan money nalang ulit for your schooling.
By the way nabayaran mo na ba utang mo. BE HONEST….
Looking forward sa post mo.
Hey CS!
Nice fabrication! I’m friends with CA, but I never been in their event. not even once. You and your filthy mouth.
Nice try on your filthy SEO tricks.
CS, is a fake guy attempting to create traffick on this web-site. The more we people engage on him, the more contents will be created.
Poor soul. I hope you have a happy life. I see desperations, hate, anger in you – signs of being broke.
Beneath The Lies, The Truth about CA2020 by CS
I’m a proud EX-CA2020 core team coach. I just cannot stand all this lying anymore.
I hope what I’m about to share will give the public the perspective of CA2020 that you don’t get to hear. The TRUTH.
Yes, I paid P100K (borrowing from different people on the spot) just to be part of the core team.
Yes, I wrote that F..king letter they ask me to and sign.
I didn’t know that it’s going to be Nuskin until I gave them the money. My coach or upline comfort me by saying he got his ROI back in less than a month. After 3 month with CA2020 system he’s making 5 figures na DAW. As we speak that day he’s making six figure na per month in passive income DAW. This A**hole rovel daw is making 7 figures a month in passive income DAW.
BEFORE I GAVE THE MONEY
Before I gave the money this coach told me that the system CA2020 is the program that Robert Kiyosaki endorse. Top leaders “DAW” in CA2020 have direct access with Robert Kiyosaki personally. Soon “DAW” CA2020 will be endorse by Robert Kiyosaki publicly. That makes me more excited to borrow P100k to become a member core team ASAP. Sounds too good to be true? Sad to say everything is a lie….bad trip lang is I felt for it and defend it for quite some time. Just a tip next time, a lawyer taught me if you plan to attend CA2020 meetings record what they are saying use that as an evidence to verify their lies and exaggeration for future reference.
I must admit joining them I lie and exaggerate. My friends, officemates, prospects for the new recruits, even to my family. You won’t notice it, because it’s a normal practice in CA2020. Can’t even tell you’re lying when your with them. Until you see someone got hurt by what you’re doing. Then I change.
THE PRICE I HAVE TO PAY:
I’m angry at three things for my stupid decision joining CA2020
First: I’m angry at myself being so stupid for believing what they say without due diligence of what I’m getting into. Their lies is so believable in the beginning. Anyway I’m responsible for my own decision, but it is also my responsibility to warn people about CA2020 since I been there.Yes, I did spam a lot before and make irritating comments to people. Add as much people in my facebook, multiply, myspace, blogs and friendster account so that I could tap to other people’s friends and spam them (that’s what my stupid coach taught me it’s CA’s system called leveraging, rich people use leverage daw sabi ni kiyosaki)… sorry for all my spamming.
Second: CA2020… everything is a lie, Which they teach and calls it leverage. The very reason I join was expecting to be taught and apply financial literacy, disappointed when i found out its MLM and that’s all they know and do. I was trap because of the money I put in. The only way to make back my money is to recruit and hope that someone will go for the P100K. But that won’t cover everything. They claim to teach financial literacy, it’s all talk lang pala, what they actually do is recruiting. They DON”T DO what they preach about financial literacy or even do real business and investment in the real world. rovel is only using all of us as a front to his scheme. Worst is we are trick to loan money on the spot from people we know who can lend us, pay CA the money and do the hard and dirty work for rovel, and try to earn our money back by recruiting other people to do the same to become rich in CA2020. I guarantee you won’t experience any Robert Kiyosaki teaching in action there, but they quote Robert kiyosaki on everything making you believe your doing financial literacy. You will be hook for a while thinking that you are helping people become financially literate. The truth is what CA2020 core team members does is spam-recruit-lie. spam-recruit-lie. spam-recruit-lie… that’s what you really do when you became a core team member.
Third: Nu Skin….. it looks and sound credible outside no doubt about that, but inside the people in this company all they think about is money and profit. Don’t have any integrity to the people who are losing their money because of all the lying and deception they are doing. They strongly support CA’s ware bouts because they need the revenue. CA brags to contribute a large portion of nuskin’s revenue. That’s why a**hole rovel and his wife marcel is the company’s favorite leader. with a company like that GO TO HELL! That’s where all the people in nuskin and CA2020 belongs. “Liers Go to Hell diba”.
Nuskin and CA2020 only look good and impressive on the outside from the beginning. But once you’re part of it, you will see the ugly truth inside. It’s made up of liars and deceivers. It will take a lot of lying and huge number of people fooled to see a good decent income there.
WARNING: INCEPTION CA2020 STYLE
They’ll say anything just to get that money from you using Kiyosaki quotes. and if you are a rich dad fans. they’ll use the famous scripted lies, i mean lines:
“our top leaders in CA2020 has direct contact with Robert Kiyosaki personally”,
“Robert Kiyosaki wrote a personal letter thanking and congratulating CA2020 for spreading rich dad in the Philippines”,
“Robert has been asking CA many times to join him and be part of Rich Dad for the Philippines so that everything will be official, but we refuse, because if we did we have to charge higher fees because Kiyosaki will have a share on the money, and that goes against CA’s mission statement”.
The truth is this are all BS LIES…..you’ll never see that letter or anything close to it. They’ll make you feel that they don’t need you, but you need them. they will make yu beg to be part of there organization. They really are after your money and your network of people. Once you become a core team member you will know the whole truth bit by bits, but it’s gonna be too late and you will end up TRAP living in the world of their lies. NOTE: WE’RE NOT APPLYING KIYOSAKI PRINCIPLES, WE’RE ONLY USING IT AS A LEVERAGE (LIES).
After waking up from this bad nightmare I realized that CA2020 not training people to be millionaires instead to be a MINIONS. Who will have loyalty to follow rovel without question, without thinking, even if it’s bad, dishonest, unethical, unpleasant, stealing people’s intellectual property rights, irritating people using spam, and specially LYING…. rovel doesn’t have to do anything, he make his minions believe that he is a multi-millionaire, communicates with Robert Kiyosaki personally then his group of MINIONS does all the dirty work for him. You will be a lucky minions if he talks to you. All he does is make false and untruthful promises that sounds so real in the beginning. Many of us in the core team who quit, saw what’s going on. We rather loose our money and stupidity than stay longer and become more stupid, lose more money.
THE BAIT TO CATCH MINIONS:
CA2020 should call your seminar “MINIONAIRE MIND GATHERING”. You will become a minion minded person if you stay with CA2020 and there brain washing training. Call the Cashflow 101 gathering to “CASHOUT 101: How to get in the bigger rat race of debt” because very soon you will have to cashout debt money. They will quote that Kiyosaki encourage people using debt as leverage, that’s how rich people become rich. Give it to them, because it’s part of the Rich Dad Financial Literacy Program. Training you to be wise and where to put the money. (duh!)
THE DECEPTION:
One thing I can’t take anymore is rovel created this system in tricking people like me and many others with lies of promises using Kiyosaki as leverage for you to take loan. Pay them an amount of P100K (they’ll ask you to call people on the spot) to be part of his team that is endorse by robert kiyosaki DAW! (duh!) Before you give the money they will teach you to write a letter stating that it’s your choice and free will, that you are liable with this decision giving them the money, can’t disclose any information about their system and sign it. So that if anything happen CA2020 is off the hook. The truth is there are more people who lose money and with debt after joining CA2020. and you don’t hear them complain, because if you do and want your money back or write the truth and post it in the net for the public to see. what you have written and sign, will be use against you. They can even sue you for that . We will tell people that the learning you got from us is more than what they paid for. That’s why you never heard any complaints posted from the many core team who quit.
THE RAT RACE INSIDE CA2020:
Being a CA2020 core team minions is worse than the rat race of life. Aside from wanting to get the money back (ROI) on what you have given them. The thing I hate most is the lying. As a CA2020 minions/coaches you will become accustomed to lying (they call it leverage) and exaggerating to people every day. The worst part is you have to live that lie. You will be TRAP both money and lies! You will have to recruit more people to make money. Who wins here is this A**hole rovel he doesn’t do any of the stuff he just manage his minions. It’s hard to get out because you’re gonna end up in debt and start working again to pay back your debt. In fact you lose more than 100k, even more than double, because you have to find ways to pay back your loans. some other exclusive trainings with payment, you also need extra money for the nuskins front loading system. where every month if you don’t have recruits from CA2020 programs that will loan money from people on the spot for you, you have to buy your position to maintain your executive status. So you’ll loan again, which they call leverage a kiyosaki principle to become rich. The truth is CA2020 coaches are not really rich or making money, we only have to pretend and act like one. This a**hole rovel make money for helping nuskin recruit. On top of the food chain is NUSKIN no wonder they make $1 billion annually. Because they love recruiting real estafa criminal person like this a**hole coach rovel. If you are not comfortable with lying, you wont stay long with CA2020.
FACT vs OPINION”
FACT: They claimed to have created more than 200 core teams members or coaches, (when I was still active there)
FACT: 75% to 80% of them quit already or inactive.
FACT: The worst part is almost all of them end up with debt from the money they loan.
TRAP:
I know that because some of them became my good friends and have shared their concern with me silently, crying and confuse. Some got burned-out, you need to recruit to have income. A number of them already have money problem before they joined in. They joined CA with confident because we teach money management jar and financial literacy base on rich dad with a promising “lie” to making 6 figures in less than a years, but the opposite happens, the money problem they have end up even bigger (you don’t talk about this specially if your around a**hole rovel’s loyal minions…..( I even encourage them to stay just to get back their ROI, but in order to get back their ROI a new recruit will have to pay that price. and they have to follow that cycle. The CA2020 rat race Trap. because you have more to lose when you leave). Now that’s a real loser when you join!
That’s why we endlessly spam day in day out, because if the recruiting stops (money coming in P100k from new recruits) the whole thing will collapse. rovel and his top minions will have no income. How many thousands of people have to lose money before they achieve the goal of 1000 millionaires by 2020. As of now I would say 200 plus (who shell out P100k) people end up broke to make one rovel earn. How much more for the goal of 1000 millionaires. Do the math. it’s a system of dependent on new recruits to make money. Recruiting is what you do when you enter the world of CA2020. not financial literacy.
Facts and figures shows that more people lose money and end up in debt joining them. Who’s next?
MILLIONAIRE OR MINIONAIRE?
One of the thing when you wake up to the truth after joining CA 2020 actively. The friends and people you have lied to or exaggerated. it just feels weird seeing them again talking with them again. Specially if they ask “what happened I thought your making…”……. It’s not easy to hit 5 figures income every month in Nuskin on what they promise…. by the way my stupid upline the one claims to make 6 figure income is also inactive already. Claims to make 6 figure passive income, but commute with FX, bus then tricycle going home. I found out that he’s not even making 5 figures a month in nuskin…. The self proclaimed multi-millionaire a**hole rovel tomambo himself been with nuskin for many years is only making 5 figure income a month. Because just this year he was just awarded the million peso something award in nuskin I was there in the awarding. Meaning for many number of years in nuskin his accumulated income was F**king P1million only. and his using all our debt money for that. He makes more money from the 100K (borrowed money) of newly recruited core team minions. sana may taga BIR dito para pa audit ang mga tunay na income nila, kung totoong multi millionaire si rovel.
Honestly I lied about how much I make in nuskin just to impress my prospect for them to join. few times I made some irritating comment on the net to defend CA…that is the culture of CA2020….again sorry about that to the people I lied to. I already woke up and want to do the right thing.
THE CASUALTY:
Wow! come to think of it, out of all the people became CA2020 core team minions (paid P100k) who quit or inactive, we outnumbered the ones who stayed. I know there are new recruits of minions coming in, but it’s not as massive as before. Core team minions/coaches knows the truth, but rather exaggerate and lie which they call leverage. They have to protect there investment, because if CA2020 collapse everyone will loose money except rovel and nuskin. Who already made lots of money from us and never shell out anything or did any loans. (grabe, mind of a criminal talaga)
WHAT DO CA2020 FEAR THE MOST:
If you ask any CA2020 minions questions about the TRUTH their mood will quickly change. I’m sure you have encounter that, we have to lie and exaggerate in order to attract people. We teach leverage, leverage using kiyosaki, harv eker, seminars, cashflow games, facebook, yahoo, your friends, money, family…etc. The greatest leverage we use is LYING, it works like magic. Ever wonder why we can’t answer direct if you ask for the truth. One of the greatest fear as a CA2020 minions have is “telling the truth”. We can’t handle the truth. Have an agreement no one can tell the truth, that’s why we use creative ways to answer as long as the truth is not expose. If you want to become a master liar, volunteer yourself to CA2020 they will gladly welcome you, have your P100k ready for faster processing. Request to be rovel’s direct frontline minions, you will be an envy there.
MY MESSAGE TO CA2020:
To all the stupid lying minions/coaches of CA2020 and specially you a**hole rovel The Master-God-King-Sultan of Estafa. (I can’t believe I was defending you before in your estafa issue) You’re only superior in your own CA2020 kingdom with your minions. In the real world you’re a BIG JOKE and a criminal. “a criminal will always be a criminal” from the series CSI Miami. To my ex-co-minions/coaches once you wake up from the fantasy world of CA2020. You’ll realized we’re all a BIG JOKE in the real world.
Do you honestly think this scam of yours will last forever? Do you think signing that letter will stop people you fooled from telling the truth? That’s what rovel is afraid of THE TRUTH. I know you will try to figure out who I am and hunt me down. I’m not stupid anymore once I left CA2020 I left my stupidity there for all your loyal minions to share..coz that’s where stupidity belongs. There are a number of us together right now, that you and your minions have fooled. Just wait and see, because we love to see you behind bars again and some of your loyal minions para may alalay ka sa loob ng preso.
I waited for the right time to post this. I just want to get all the anger and truth out… when the right time comes. i’ll shove all my money in your _ss….hope you have a big _ss rovel. There are quite a number of ex-CA waiting for me to write this and i’m glad I did! ayan na! thank you.
THE PHASE 2 SCAM: THE SEQUEL
Your CA2020 phase 2 of the power investing plan: golden goose fund asking people to loan P500k for your Real estate investment scam… Isn’t it enough already that more people end up broke and with huge debt after joining CA2020 and nuskin. and yet you want more?
TO HELL with CA2020 and NUSKIN… Mamatay na sana kayo. Sa inyo na mga pera namin saksak nyo sa baga nyo!@!@!
To the concern brothers and sisters, you can use this post to warn people joining CA2020 and nuskin thank you!
CS
You can’t really get your ROI because nobody wants to follow a crying baby…Grow up!
joebel obviously your a newbie also. paalis na ako, papunta ka palang. When you come to that point, when you need to cry. You can cry on julius’ arm pits. it will give comfort and support.
I agree with Julius.
I’m choosing among three conclusions here from your anonymous post:
1. Our justice system is very obsolete to not see that something like CA2020 is a scam.
2. CA2020 is really good in keeping their “scam” a secret (which I doubt since they are said to be “spamming” the web.)
3. You are an idiot, a liar, a cheat and you’re not really a member of CA2020.
Your immature banters keep on convincing me to believe the 3rd one.
oh no.. not another stupid moron….I wish I never became member.it’s totally a waste of time and money. yeah i’m not anymore with CA2020 and really proud of it. thank you.
How many people has invested their P100K with you na? para may pang christmas ka.
@ CS I’m so curious to who you are. I haven’t been active with CA for almost a year now. Mediyo di naman masiyadong nabaon sa utang kasi di naman ako katulad ng ibang tangang coaches na bumibili ng volume to maintain yung pagiging executive nila. From the clues I got from your post, you were with us when Rovel was awarded the 1 million commission badge. Was that the success seminar where part of what he said onstage was: “para sa mga quiters, ako meron one million kayo wala”?
Please leave more clues bro. Di ka nagiisa. Marami naring umalis.
1 million lang?? Is that in dollars or in peso? tsktsktsk… nakakabulag talaga ang 1 million… Yung kaibigan namin ng asawa ko is earning 16 – 20 million in earnings from another MLM who started 2008… And she actually attended the first module but thought that they’re just a bunch of posers na mahilig lang mag malaki ng success ng iba. She then started other businesses like condo buildings in Gensan and davao and some restaurants in gensan. Her corporation right now is MCM Villamor Inc. and she’s just 27. I’m earning about 6-9 M in a year and I don’t even brag about it. I also attended the 1st and 2nd module back in 2008 and had played a couple of times… Back then I was still an employee and walang networth… ngayon I can say that I am very much happy with my online garments business and metal fabrication business in cavite. And I started out in business in mid 2009. Naalala ko pa si coach warren pa nag invite samin… I wonder what happened to the people who invested there. I hope kumita sila dun…(Which I doubt) especially that the probability of risk in the MLM business is about 50-50. If you can’t sell then you can’t earn… If you can’t recruit then you can’t earn… And worse if your down line does not recruit you don’t earn. 1M are pennies in the stock market… Sana nilagay nalang nila sa First Metro Equity Mutual fund yun edi sana nung 2009 hangang 2010 eh yung 100k nila eh 400K na ngayon… tsktsk… By the way I think Mayen Moriah is also out of the core team… Who else? another is Janice Panto a core team member, si coach abby nakarealize din ata na maling decision yung ca2020.. haha
@CS
Prove what you’re saying and post your real name.
CA2020 has been getting a lot of these from ANONYMOUST comment senders yet nobody, as in nobody has filed any charges against ca2020.If all the things you are saying is true,and you seem very passionate and convinced they are, then why can’t you just tell the police?File a formal report.
Are you afraid?
It’s actually useless to file a case against them cause the legal system here is only for people with IQ of 10…. Simpleng mugging nga di nila maresolba eh mga ganyang modus pa… By the way, we don’t think CA is a scam we only think that these bunch of baboons are actually fooling people to invest in a business that does not work (well it can work for some)… Biruin mo sobrang daming myembro ng CA2020 pero ilan ba sakanila ang actually mayaman? I’m sorry to say this but if you are a member of CA… Are you rich? How much is your networth and where do you put your revenue? In a bank account or reinvested? Again an asset has a value… a franchise you get from nuskin is a set of beauty products that is worth less the price you paid for… Asset investing is all about creating assets not waisting money on franchise that has little or no value… Again CA claims that their business is big but are you guys stakeholders of NUSKIN? Again it’s still not your business. If the company collapse which can happen to any corporation what’s gonna happen to your franchise? Can you even get shares when the company liquidates? I don’t think so… Haay… panay kiyosaki kasi binabasa pero di na nag expand sa mas malawak na sakop ng business and investment. Check out books of business structures, Stock market or public companies investing, or legal books for business.. Expand your horizons… maraming paraan para kumita ng pera, hindi lang NUSKIN…. Again… Pakita nyo samin kung sino sino mga naging mayaman na sainyo at maniniwala kami… pero kung panay salita kayo eh naku… wala tayong pupuntahan… Babato ko ulit yung madalas nyong ibato: “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich?” I know I am and I’m enjoying it… eh mga taga CA? Hmmmmmm
Why wait? Why not do it now? Maybe you just don’t have balls to do anything but just write and talk. We’re waiting
I don’t belong CA group.I just love Nu Skin, afterall it is a Big Business.it is an opportunity worth sharing unlike Molavie..
julius parang ikaw yung takot ah…panic mode kanaba? take my advice please finish grade 1…
Let me give the public an example of what kind of information CA2020 post in their site. to attract stupid people like joebel, julius, ramil and louie. this is written by the master estafa rovel himself comparing himself and CA2020 to some great establishement. You’ll be the judge. I don’t know what this moron rovel was thinking. when I first read this i was impress, but when i came to my senses. it’s really stupid crap sheet(of paper).
PHILIPPINE ENTREPRENEUR SCHOOLS AND THE CA2020 LIFE ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAM by Coach Rovel
I happened to purchase Entrepreneur Magazine yesterday, March 2010 issue. I was fascinated by one of the article about Formal Schools offering Entrepreneurship Courses.
Here they are:
1. De La Salle University – Seeks to develop entrepreneurs “with global perspective and a Filipino heart.” Average tuition of P2,080 per unit on a trimestral basis.
2. Ateneo De Manila – Seeks to establish businesses “with a social purpose.” P17,000 in tuition for a certificate program lasting for 4 months.
3. Asian Institute of Management – Broad strategic management education that can tear down obstacles to business growth and longevity. P25,000 (3day-program), P85,000 (10-day program).
4. San Beda College – Has cited as a “Youth Entrepreneurship Enabler” Tuition of P52,000 per semester.
5. University of Asia and the Pacific – Envisioned to address the lack of orientation of Filipinos towards entrepreneurship. P2,600 to P2,900 per unit per semester.
6. The One School – Program tailor fit to give each student a personalized education. Tuition is 65,000 per term.
7. Entrepreneurs School of Asia – Takes a step by step mentoring approach. Up to P45,000 per term.
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I am reposting my previous discussions here to see the comparison of Traditional Business School vs. Create Abundance Business School
> Tuition: You pay tuition fee every semester. Considered as educational expense.
CA2020 Business School: One time payment. Your tuition must come from leverage, meaning not your own money. Considered as educational investment.
> Teachers: Teachers are in the rat race since they are employees of the school. Most of the time teach something that they haven’t done or if they done it they failed that is why they end up teaching to survive and make ends meet.
CA2020 Business School: Teachers are entrepreneur leaders. They are called coaches and mentors. They are running and building their own business organizations and building their business empires. They are on call 24/7.
> Time: You have to follow the curriculum or prospectus and report to class as scheduled.
CA2020 Business School: You report based on your availability and desire to succeed. The more time you show up the faster you learn.
> Grades: Grades are reflected on the report card and released every after semester.
CA2020 Business School: Grades are reflected on the bank statement. Indicates your actual results of your educational endeavors.
> Projects: Projects have time limit and can easily be manipulated for the sake of passing.
CA2020 Business School: Projects can last a lifetime or beyond. It can be transferred and delegated to future business partners or apprentices.
> Classmates: Classmates most of the time are from the same age brackets or the same industry or profession.
CA2020 Business School: Classmates come from all walks of life representing various professions, experiences and backgrounds.
> Resources and References: Resources are oftentimes outdated and obsolete. It takes longer time for approval of new reference materials since formal school systems are very bureaucratic.
CA2020 Business School: Resources are up to date and updated. The book can be released today and the next day it could be the reference material. We encompass references from different industries, professions and fields of endeavors.
> Practicum: Oftentimes you got to work for an existing company or business or start a Small Business like Food Carts.
CA2020 Business School: You get to start your own business or company. Form mastermind teams and alliances to start business projects.
> School Location: Have specific school address and location. It takes more money and capital resources to put up a branch.
CA2020 Business School: Uses the Innovative Franchising system. Our business school is our core team member coaches. We bring the school and the life entrepreneurship program, leadership dojos, cashflow gatherings and services wherever we are. Our business school is located wherever we are seated.
> Graduation: You graduate only once per course.
CA2020 Business School: You graduate every time you grow and build a franchise. You graduate from your previous income level and move to the next income level.
> Opportunities: If ever you cannot really build your own business after graduating from an Entrepreneur Course, you have to print resumes and do job interviews after you graduate.
CA2020 Business School: You are already running a global business and already making money. Lucrative opportunities come to you everyday.
to rovel “WHAT A CRAP!”
This is GREAT!!!!!!! Thanks a lot CS for this huge information about creative abundance! i was invited last week and attended the first module. I am skeptic about the whole thing but i have to clarify things with them regarding the so called “FREE WORKSHOP”. I mean what’s the catch? Baka networking nanaman ito. Sunog na sunog na ako dun, major major sunog, tutong, uling kung baga. Then, i thought what the heck, i’ll just give the guy a chance to talk and listen. It’s like a, b and c stuff, heard it before but yun nga sabi nya in order to learn you have to first empty your cup, ako si mabait. GO! Natapos after 3 hours, i have done my notes, may fill in the blanks pa and a lot of my answers are “negatronics”, they say they’re going to turn it around, in short—the whole learning or refresher course was positive and i’m curious what the next module would be like? Then, i again was invited for the 2nd module 2 days after (and bilis diba?) it was a sunday, yup yesterday, the feast of the Black Nazarene. I was reminded through text that the 2 names i submitted to the one who invited me was not responding so she requested me to give other names instead! ASAP! Inisip ko, bakit may asap? mag eend of the world na ba? may rush? medyo napaisip ako na hwag na muna mag attend kasi wala bang free will ang mga tao? kung ayaw edi ayaw.took advantage of this precious time to find out more about this group or what they call “community”.
I think, this is more than enough to convince my thoughts and instinct on this. Thank CS!:) One module is enough. Bye!creative abundance.
wow. first module of ca2020 is really good. but there really was something fishy going on when I was there in Ascott. they are eager in getting guests! They remind you always that this is important for you to go on the next module. If these coaches only are not hiding the nuskin thing, they could have been better in the line of coaching/financial literacy teaching!
Thank you CS for your post
Finally, you broke the silence.
Just want to let you know that
we appreciate what you did.
I’m a member of the core team before
just like you, I can’t handle all the lying
and deception anymore. CA2020 is just fooling
kapwa pinoy getting there hard earned money.
I understand when you say that
people do get hurt badly (financially).
I learned my lesson also.
Unlike your experience I have good relationship
with my coach (upline). We all quit the same time.
I agree with you when you said that the
source of income in CA2020 is from the people
who join and pay the P100K. To get back your
investment you have to recruit other people who
are willing to loan P100K to join CA2020.
It’s a big TRAP. a cycle where no one wins except
Rovel and Nuskin. I should have seen this is the
beginning.
I’m not sure if we meet or know each other,
but I will respect your privacy.
Thank you once again
To the people who left CA2020, please post
your experience here. Para wala nang maloloko
si Rovel.
Wow, i cant believe the moderators APPROVED these comments here.
Is your website a platform for angry people fighting? Is this your branding?
Or are you NOT a social media strategist? Because this is beyond the ethics..
Social media is a tool for networking people – in other words, making friends … but this site does not speak about it. Is social media a tool for making enemies meet online? I guess NOT!
It’s like inviting people to fight inside your house! If I am the owner of this site, I won’t allow this.
And you are promoting leadership too?? This is not leadership. You lead people to what?!
You think you’re helping people because of these senseless info? Whether the words here speak about truth or not, no one will TRUST them! Because your readers does not know these people in the first place.
In fact, no happy person will enjoy these conflicts here. Now, what kind of readers will you attract because of this? The lame ones? This is no different than reading tabloids filled with gruesome stories.
Unless, you yourself enjoy visualizing these people throwing punches at each other…
What’s your true intention then?
This cripples your branding – bit by bit… I will remove these comments if I were you. Let these people fight in an appropriate blog-site, a platform where arch-enemies meet and greet. You can create that, but not here.
I can not entrust my company to your services.
Speak your brand!
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Defending the Author / Moderator of the site
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First, regarding the approval of comments. Comments are just comments, they freedom of expression from an individual. We can refer to it as “opinions/ideas”. (Check the definition of opinion — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion)
Second, let me quote you, “Social media is a tool for networking people – in other words, making friends”. No, social media is not a tool for making friends, as it was not defined clearly on the link provided below. Should it be corrected, you may edit the entry, to satisfy your definition.
Third, leadership was never an issue is this article, nor in this blog site, check the about page to know more about this blogsite. (I’ve also included a link below)
Fourth, let me quote this again, “Whether the words here speak about truth or not, no one will TRUST them!” Its now for you to say no one will trust them, but for the readers to decide.
Fifth, the readers attracted to this site, particularly this article, will be the one searching and researching about this so called “NU SKIN” or CA2020 or somehow interested in CA2020. Thus, making those interested in CA2020, “the lame ones”.
Next,
“This cripples your branding – bit by bit… I will remove these comments if I were you. Let these people fight in an appropriate blog-site, a platform where arch-enemies meet and greet. You can create that, but not here.”
Why to the moderator have to remove the comments? So you still want people to fight regarding this and lead them to that? Another thing, it will be inappropriate for people here to just transfer to another blog site to brag about the issue. It will be like, when you see people “fighting” (as your term is) in an area, you bring them to another place to fight. It is unethical.
Lastly, “I can not entrust my company to your services. Speak your brand!” The moderator, blogger, is not advertising for you to entrust your company to him, I never saw any statement pertaining to entrusting anyone’s company to him.
Thank you.
The critic reviewer of this comment
PS. Are you the the company owner of the topic?
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mindset…it all boils down to mindset…claiming to learn financial literacy and yet failed to understand that network marketing is a big business and that wellness industry is a “big wave”?…something is wrong from the very start…
grabe talaga tong scam na to…biruin mo aayusin ang takbo ng isip mo…patitibayin ang emosyon mo…at kung magtitiyaga ka lang…aasenso ka pa…saan ka pa?
To be fair with CA2020… magaganda yung mga tinuturo nila.. all you have to do is to be open minded.
I see no evil.. naging stepping stone ko yung mga modules nila at never akong naging bitter sa mga nangyari…. its blessings in disguise. Hindi naman sila namimilit (sa experience ko), kung ayaw mo eh di hindi.. never naman nila akong tinawag na loser.. kasi in my status in life, especially financially, mayaman na ako.
In the end, I said 100% NO to invest in NU skin or CA2020. kasi hindi ko line of interest ang MLM.
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para sa kaunlaran ng bansa… sa mga “bitter” o nararamdaman nilang na biktima sila.. stop thinking negative.. natuto din kau at marami kayong naging magagandang experiences with CA2020.
at sa CA2020.. i re construct nyo yung marketing system ninyo.. much fair, honest at walang mga hidden sales talk.. marami ng nagrereklamo.. so.. may mali talaga sa inyo.
sa una palang… maging straight forward na kau sa susunod na MLM kau at nag bebenta kau ng NU skin at nag ce create kau ng mga downlines.
to be fair.. MLM is legal.. nagiging illegal nalang sya kapag inabuso na. o mali ang execution.
thanks
HI NATHAN.
I SEE THAT YOU HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE ABOUT ALL THIS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS HOW OTHERS SHOULD TAKE CA2020′S MARKETING STRATEGY, WETHER IT IS A SCAM OR NOT. I SUGGEST PEOPLE SHOULD THINK MUCH RATHER THAN TALK MUCH. SEE WHAT THEY LIKE ABOUT IT. THEN PICK UP JUST WHAT THEY THINK WILL BE HELPFUL TO THEM.
THE CASHFLOW SESSION IS A BARGAIN CONSIDERING IT COMES WITH FREE FOOD. THE BENEFITS OF PLAYING IT PLUS THE FRIENDS YOU GET TO MEET ARE ALL A BARGAIN AT 400PESOS. AND IT IS ONLY 200PESOS WHEN YOU PRE-REGISTER.
IT WAS MY FIRST TIME TO PLAY YESTERDAY AND I AM PLAYING AGAIN NEXT WEEK. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THERE IS AFTER THE CASHFLOW GAMES BUT I THINK I LIKE IT SO FAR, THOUGH I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR DURING THE FAMILIARIZATION ROUND THAT I DON’T THRIVE IN NETWORKING.
TO ALL, PLEASE MAKE PEACE AND NOT WAR. JUST BE WISE.
ok naman ang CA2020, kahit na hindi ko tinuloy yung Networking Business nila with NU Skin. Although kahit alam kong 75% ang patong nila na presyo ng NU Skin product.. if you can recall the Module 4 of your 100,000 challenge
Salamat sa thread na ito na nalaman ko about them.
Although, I made friends with some of the members at naging stepping stone ko ang pagkakaron ng higher mindset because of their modules.. But then again, hindi ako basta2x maniniwala na 100k for NU skin will eventually give you ROI in just few months??
Hindi lang ako nakibo dahil friends ko na sila.. but im 100% na never akong magi invest sa MLM nila
i was invited at ca2020 group and i nid advice now…i have come up with the amount but im having a second thought about giving them the 100k my question is the letter to e signed is liked a waiver na hindi mo silang pwedeng sisihin kapag di mo nabawi yung 100k…..any additional info on this power investing plan will be highly appreciated
HI YSON
HAVE YOU GIVEN THEM THE 100K?
I suggest to do further due diligence, PHP 100k is no joke, especially during these times. Imagine what you yourself can do with your PHP 100k. One is food cart franchising. There are food cart franchise as low as PHP 10,000 +/-. Meaning, your PHP 100,000.00 can go as much as 10 food cart franchise. It can even be invsted in real estate, you will have to do further due diligence on this and the legalities. Another, if you have not conquered your fear, you can also consider saving the money on a time deposit bank, some banks can give upto 3% interest every 3 months. You can also do mutual funds. You can also put up your own business, like a small printing business, button pins, heat press, t-shirt printing. You can also do some souvenir shop items.
Your PHP 100k can go a long way, just do your “due diligence”. The decision is up to you.
Thanks.
I just knew about this. I hope you did not give them your money… And why would they not allow you to blame them if they didn’t return you money? Logic dictates they’re up to something dubious… Please say you canceled the investment.
I received a text message from ca2020 just this morning so I searched to know what it was. I went to their website and there was really no clear indication as to what it really was. I found this blog and it was very helpful. And I agree 100% that ca2020 is an in-your-face scam. Please don’t believe these superstitious beliefs. If you want to learn about business, read. A plethora of books are out there to read. Or you can try to get your hands on business. Nothing beats that. So please investigate before you plunge into these kinds of tactics. Just think about it: How will you get your money from these investments? How will your investments earn any income at all? Ask questions, hard questions and just be plain logical. Don’t let your emotions get the best of you…
Thank you for this article. I received an unsolicited SMS today from 09067943706 and was led to this article.
“For Aspiring Entrepreneurs: Life Entrepreneurship Program. For seminar details, text your AGE & CITY LOCATION to PAO 09175243383 http://www.ca2020.net”
My unsolicited advice: Try eliminating vain expenses instead. Be content with simple living, if you dare. Kung gusto nyo ng kasaganahan, OK lang! OK lang maging sagana, basta’t sa matapat at tamang paraan.
She has been shaking all these years the kids should been loosing weight what she trying 2 do change her image LOL.
Another one from 09359975379, got in just now:
“For Aspiring Entrepreneurs: Life Entrepreneurship Program.
For seminar details text your AGE & LOCATION to Norgene at 09351044024. Sign up at http://www.ca2020.net”