Social Media, Shams, & the Create Abundance Business Community
Sep 25
During my usual “Facebooking” nights, I got an invitation from a fan profile page from Go Negosyo. Since I was an avid supporter of the program, I decided to be fan. However, it looks like some group is using other intellectual properties without their permission so that they can spam users into going to their website. I find this in bad taste and I couldn’t resist writing about it. The person spamming is Martin De Leon and the group he belongs to is called the “Create Abundance Business Community”. I’d like to take this opportunity to voice out my concern with their social media marketing strategy.
Basically their business is selling slots to board game sessions of Robert Kiyosaki’s Cash Flow. To play you have to pay P400. There’s nothing wrong with the board game. In fact, I learned a lot from it when one of my friends had me play it for free. What’s pissing me off is that the Facebook campaign that they’re using to promote it is nothing but a sham. They come up with fan profiles that use the IP of popular groups like Go Negosyo and even Ako Mismo. They use official images from these groups and promote it as if it were really a fan club for the said initiatives. Why is it a scam?
Because after you join all they do is spam your inbox with invitations to the Cash Flow game.
One of the most important things you have to keep in mind when you do social media marketing is that you should always be transparent, sincere, and REAL. You are asking permission from users to be able to communicate with them and by violating that trust, you are ruining your personal and business brands.
I’ve already removed myself from the fan list of their groups. Suggest you do the same.
To Martin De Leon and the Create Abundance Business Community, please stop masquerading and using someone else’s IP. Eventually you can probably get sued.
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wow this is the most number of comment i ever saw in a blog.
I promise to protect this person: so I’ll just call this person (chris) which is not the real name. Chris signed a contract with CA2020 that disclose Chris from telling the truth.
Chris is one of the coaches and core team member of CA2020 before. Chris is the one who invited me to CA2020 wealth course, Chris is no longer active with CA2020. But need to protect himself from Rovel’s group. Chris did invest the P100k with CA2020 and was promise to make P1M per month after 2 years, if Chris follows the CA2020 system of creating wealth. Chris did what he was told, in fact in the beginning Chris like what the group is doing and there mission. That’s why I was invited by Chris. But as Chris goes deeper, began to see the truth on what’s going on. Rovel is not really the person who you guys from CA2020 think he is.
Recently we bump into each other and have a very interesting chat. Chris said that more than half of the coaches there are no longer active or quit. Almost all of them end up with debt, because most of the P100k they pay to CA2020 are “inutang” from other people. To enter the core team you have to invest P100k. And they will ask you to call people “on the spot” to make that “utang” to invest with them. without any money back guarantee. “Money Back guarantee are for losers lang daw”.
All of the members including the core team are not even making any passive income. Some of them has been there for more than 3 years. And yet can’t even buy a second hand car.
My Take on this: If you are teaching people to follow your system that will earn you P1 million per month passive income in 2 years or less. Shouldn’t you CA2020 core team people making that amount by now in order to teach others. You’re blaming Chris for not following the system, but common sense lang CA2020 coaches. You yourself are not even making that amount by following the CA2020 system. Trust me you’ll never make that money, before you know it Rovel will make a run for your money, like what he did with other people.
Chris told me why…. quit CA2020 because
First: Chris cannot take the dishonesty, all the lying, using other people’s or organization’s intellectual property rights without permission just to recruit people for the Wealth Course. In order to make it look like other organization is supporting them. The hype of fooling people with CA2020′s promise which non of them ever fulfill themselves. That’s why a lot of coaches (the honest ones)quit CA2020, it’s just obvious people who feel comfortable with CA2020 are comfortable with dishonesty, lying, can take advantage of people.
Second: The P100K is the real motivator for CA2020 people to make bawi their investment. Helping people and the country is just the front obviously. Common sense lang, who do you think gets the huge portion of the P100k?
Chris’ uncle was in the real estate business, and knew Rovel’s whereabouts the scams and the stafa. The uncle said that businessman and investors doesn’t even want to do business or partner with Rovel. This guy is a real life criminal who scam people for money. That’s why he started targeting young people who has no experience, no knowledge and are desperate to be in business. Those people are the easy target for him. Chris said that Rovel claims to be a multi-millionaire in CA2020. That’s why people blindly follow him, without even knowing the truth.
Chris also mention that in CA2020 they were introduce to this millionaire guy who help Rovel established CA2020. They call him “Kuya Pax” or Pax Paculaba. Better check on this guy too…big time daw ito.
- CA2020, you call yourself Business School when I attended your courses. First your not a school. Unless you have approval of DepED.
- I also notice that you put a TradeMark (TM) logo on some of your create abundance invitation on the net. Well you need to register yourself with IPO office before you can even use that TM logo.
- For CA2020 to collect investment of P100K from people to be part of your core team. You guys need to register with BIR. If not CA2020 is just like Bernie Madoff scam.
This are just simple tips that CA2020 Business Coaches don’t know…which a majority of the people and non-business coaches know…Huh?
- The person who’s facilitating the cashflow table i’m in, mention that CA2020 is the Robert Kiyosaki representative here in the Philippines. Chris told me CA2020 is not a representative of Robert Kiyosaki not even close, but CA2020 have to make it look like they are to attract people.
and by the way CA2020 is not the first one to affiliate themselves with Robert Kiyosaki to scam people, First Quadrant company was the first one to do it. At least FQ registered and when you pay, you get receipts.
- Even your wealth course module is a copy from T Harv Eker Seminar mentioned by Chris, which CA2020 makes it look like they are the representative of Harv Eker here in the Philippines. But you guys are not…again just to attract people… Please respect people’s intellectual property rights.
- CA2020 and Nuskin: you’re both the same…. like to take advantage of people. Perfect combination CA2020 and Nuskin the biggest business associates has a pending criminal case name Rovel Tumambo. And Nuskin wants him to be there leader.
CA2020 teaches people financial literacy, building passive, building business. They also teach members to be careful of scammers like the financial planners and insurance people, people who sell mutual funds or other investment product, other MLM companies, other group of people who teaches Rich Dad stuff, other groups who do Cashflow 101 are scammers… What a twist! Parang Culto na to ah
The truth is CA2020 teaches people to do business… but they themselves don’t, They’re MLM recruiters… using famous authors and books concept to attract people….What you do, after what you teach is totally different.
Instead of building business. CA2020 recruit new members as their business. You guys are in the recruiting to earn business. Your using Rich Dad and Harv Eker as the front act which I personally don’t think you have the permission to do so, but doing it illegally. You can just see it in plain daylight.
Base on the real world, your not a business school. It’s more of a school for criminals. Slowly Rovel is teaching you young people his method of making money. Obviously it’s very illegal…exactly what Bernie Madoff style called private investment. CA2020 is even worst, No Receipts or contract. No Guarantee… you give the money to CA2020 and you yourself has to work hard to earn it back… to pay back the money you loan from other people….how stupid!
This kind of information is a big help for those who are willing to put their life in misery.
Salamat Bong sa impormasyon
ako po ay isang concern citizen na naging biktima ng CA2020
Do you know kung saan ngayon limipat mga taga CA2020 members?
check this out http://www.lgnprosperity.com/
last week palang mahigit lapas isang daan na former member ng CA2020 nuskin lumipat na dito. at marami pang parating. Dahil wala talagang kumikita sa kanila sa CA2020 puro pambobola lang lahat, nag attend din ako dyan dati, mga naka coat and tie at gown pa sa cashflow million seminar nila, tuloy akala ko kung sinong may debut o kasal pero naka FX lang pauwi. Puro labas lang ng pera at bayad, kaya maraming mga CA2020 member panay utang at problema sa pera.
dito sa programa namin, sila naka pag bayad ng utang nila at kumita. kung talagang world class ang training niyo CA2020 dapat hindi kayo nangloloko ng mga tao tukol sa kinikita niyo. dahil alam namin ang totoo. kaya kami lumipat.
dito sa amin hindi kami kagaya ng mga taga CA2020 nuskin na sinungling ,mahilig gumawa ng mga labag sa batas, at batos sa mga tao. sympre kung pipili lang kayo ng leader piliin nyo yung mga leader na tapat sa kapwa at sa diyos.
if you want to know more horror stories about CA2020 nuskin. check us out. Hindi po ako nagpropromot dito. nag sasalay lang po akong kung anong totoong nangyayari ngayon. pabawas na nang pabawas mga tao dyan sa CA2020 nuskin dahil maingat na mga tao ngayon sa scam.
maraming salamat po sayo, ginoong Carlo Ople, dahil dito sa blog site nyo maraming tao nalinawan at nakita yung totoo. Salamat din sa mga nag halindulat ng mga mensahe dito…. may you continue to prosper in your life.
dahil after create abundance is to create prosperity….
peace and prosperity to all
ca2020 is nuskin! that’s it!!!
kumbaga naka front lang kuno ang wealth seminar pero in the end, sa nuskin ka papadala! grabe!!! mga gago!!
Recently MLM recruiters have been spamming email list such as Yahoogroups. Spam is, of course, annoying. But in this case, it can also be dangerous.
Thanks to Carlo Ople and many of those who commented on this blog/article, all of you have been helpful and informative. I’ve created a shortened link to this article — I’ve posted a link to this page on my Facebook wall, as well as a comment of my own on one of my Ygroups … open message archives at —
Am now drafting a column which should appear *in print* sometime in early September.
All the Best,
WYn
I found out about ca2020 from an online acquaintance in another social network. The Marketing ploy is “get rich in 5 years,” and “have financial security,” at least that’s what she told me. We chatted for a while, and we got to a point where it looked as if I have an aversion to getting rich because I said I am quite content with what I have and have no need to get “rich.” The seminars are “free,” some of which are based on Kiyosaki’s “Rich Dad, Poor Dad.”
I am very skeptical of “get rich” schemes. The scheme became very doubtful because the seminars are free, and I simply asked “where do you get your revenue stream if your seminars are free?” Once she said I had to be part of the group first, I immediately stopped her and stopped communicating after that.
I am also skeptical about Kiyosaki’s precepts of getting rich. One simple rule I know to get “financially secure or mature” is NOT to spend more than you earn. Another one is weighing wants over needs.